1 00:00:00,790 --> 00:00:08,110 [Music] 2 00:00:12,049 --> 00:00:10,970 as has been mentioned I'm going to tell 3 00:00:15,919 --> 00:00:12,059 you a little bit more about radiation 4 00:00:18,650 --> 00:00:15,929 and I talk which is subtitled cosmic 5 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:18,660 rays bite the dust so hopefully you'll 6 00:00:34,490 --> 00:00:26,970 see why in a bit all right I can advance 7 00:00:36,889 --> 00:00:34,500 this slide all right so in order to talk 8 00:00:39,170 --> 00:00:36,899 about radiation chemistry and radiation 9 00:00:41,900 --> 00:00:39,180 chemical processes we have to talk about 10 00:00:44,959 --> 00:00:41,910 stopping theory so what do we mean by 11 00:00:47,900 --> 00:00:44,969 stopping theory well I'll get around to 12 00:00:49,970 --> 00:00:47,910 it well kind of do its OOP circuitous 13 00:00:54,110 --> 00:00:49,980 route first we'll start with a 14 00:00:58,090 --> 00:00:54,120 historical overview in 1896 all Rebecca 15 00:01:00,470 --> 00:00:58,100 rel discovered radioactivity except a 16 00:01:03,020 --> 00:01:00,480 they didn't know that it was 17 00:01:05,390 --> 00:01:03,030 radioactivity and it wasn't called 18 00:01:07,700 --> 00:01:05,400 radioactivity what beck rail found was 19 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:07,710 that uranium salts were messing up his 20 00:01:11,570 --> 00:01:09,450 photographic plates well he was doing 21 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:11,580 experiments and he thought they were 22 00:01:15,530 --> 00:01:13,650 making x-rays turns out they're making 23 00:01:19,100 --> 00:01:15,540 something which were called immediately 24 00:01:22,070 --> 00:01:19,110 afterwards Becquerel rays and later in 25 00:01:24,109 --> 00:01:22,080 1998 Marie Curie and Pierre Curie 26 00:01:27,499 --> 00:01:24,119 started working on this they called it 27 00:01:30,230 --> 00:01:27,509 radioactivity and Marie Curie made the 28 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:30,240 very astute observation that the Alpha 29 00:01:34,420 --> 00:01:32,130 rays that she was seeing were losing 30 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:34,430 velocity as they traveled through matter 31 00:01:39,289 --> 00:01:36,810 one of the remarkable things about this 32 00:01:41,690 --> 00:01:39,299 observation is that she made it before 33 00:01:44,359 --> 00:01:41,700 we had the modern model of atomic 34 00:01:46,429 --> 00:01:44,369 structure so they had no idea what alpha 35 00:01:48,710 --> 00:01:46,439 rays were or how they could be losing 36 00:01:51,340 --> 00:01:48,720 matter they just knew that from 37 00:01:55,340 --> 00:01:51,350 experiments that's what they were doing 38 00:01:56,810 --> 00:01:55,350 all right moving a little bit forward in 39 00:01:59,780 --> 00:01:56,820 time to 1912 40 00:02:01,399 --> 00:01:59,790 JJ Thompson discovers the electron or he 41 00:02:03,350 --> 00:02:01,409 discovered the electron previously and 42 00:02:06,289 --> 00:02:03,360 then in that year he wrote the first 43 00:02:09,830 --> 00:02:06,299 theoretical paper on the how charged 44 00:02:11,690 --> 00:02:09,840 particles lose energy now the field has 45 00:02:16,330 --> 00:02:11,700 evolved a bit but we still use a lot of 46 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:18,350 and in 1913 47 00:02:23,150 --> 00:02:20,730 niels bohr wrote a paper with the very 48 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:23,160 short title on the decrease of velocity 49 00:02:27,710 --> 00:02:25,290 of moving electrified particles on 50 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:27,720 passing through matter and he swiftly 51 00:02:31,490 --> 00:02:29,730 followed it up with a paper with the 52 00:02:33,490 --> 00:02:31,500 radically different title on the 53 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:33,500 decrease of velocity of swiftly moving 54 00:02:38,500 --> 00:02:36,090 electrified particles in passing through 55 00:02:41,210 --> 00:02:38,510 matter now these were landmark papers 56 00:02:43,430 --> 00:02:41,220 they sort of helped make his career and 57 00:02:45,920 --> 00:02:43,440 we still use a lot of the theory that he 58 00:02:47,900 --> 00:02:45,930 developed in talking about how charged 59 00:02:49,910 --> 00:02:47,910 particles lose energy here's one of the 60 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:49,920 things which we still use a lot and is 61 00:02:53,300 --> 00:02:51,810 to divide the types of collisions which 62 00:02:55,370 --> 00:02:53,310 a charged particle and 63 00:02:58,340 --> 00:02:55,380 counters on moving through matter into 64 00:02:59,090 --> 00:02:58,350 two main categories one of them which 65 00:03:02,060 --> 00:02:59,100 one is the laser 66 00:03:04,310 --> 00:03:02,070 there's laser conveniently colored and 67 00:03:06,380 --> 00:03:04,320 we call nuclear or elastic collisions 68 00:03:08,630 --> 00:03:06,390 and this is when the charged particle is 69 00:03:11,210 --> 00:03:08,640 losing energy to the nuclei in what we 70 00:03:13,250 --> 00:03:11,220 call the target the other is called 71 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:13,260 electronic or inelastic collisions and 72 00:03:17,180 --> 00:03:14,850 this is when the charged particle is 73 00:03:21,890 --> 00:03:17,190 losing energy to the electrons so this 74 00:03:23,630 --> 00:03:21,900 comes from Bohr and we still use it so 75 00:03:27,110 --> 00:03:23,640 finally in our historical overview in 76 00:03:29,449 --> 00:03:27,120 1932 Hans bethe applied the very latest 77 00:03:32,420 --> 00:03:29,459 in quantum mechanics and relativity to 78 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:32,430 stopping theory and the bethe 79 00:03:37,250 --> 00:03:34,170 formula for stopping power is still 80 00:03:39,830 --> 00:03:37,260 widely used oh okay now that works right 81 00:03:41,780 --> 00:03:39,840 so now that I've told you about how the 82 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:41,790 theory of stopping power has developed 83 00:03:44,630 --> 00:03:43,290 I'm going to tell you what it looks like 84 00:03:48,110 --> 00:03:44,640 when you put all the physical processes 85 00:03:50,030 --> 00:03:48,120 together and so you can divide the 86 00:03:52,430 --> 00:03:50,040 timeline of what happens when a particle 87 00:03:55,070 --> 00:03:52,440 is moving through some matter into three 88 00:03:57,590 --> 00:03:55,080 main stages so in this first stage the 89 00:03:58,190 --> 00:03:57,600 physical stage molecules are ionized and 90 00:04:01,490 --> 00:03:58,200 excited 91 00:04:03,290 --> 00:04:01,500 this is very fast and so what happens is 92 00:04:05,690 --> 00:04:03,300 you produce a lot of charged species and 93 00:04:08,270 --> 00:04:05,700 species in electronically excited States 94 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:08,280 which go on in the physicochemical stage 95 00:04:15,250 --> 00:04:12,690 to recombine electronically so charges 96 00:04:17,719 --> 00:04:15,260 are neutralized and this results in 97 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:17,729 dissociations and then some of the 98 00:04:23,060 --> 00:04:21,090 excited species can also dissociate when 99 00:04:25,219 --> 00:04:23,070 you're talking about radiation and 100 00:04:27,110 --> 00:04:25,229 solids species on or near the surface 101 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:27,120 can also get kicked off 102 00:04:32,450 --> 00:04:29,130 process called sputtering which is very 103 00:04:34,460 --> 00:04:32,460 complicated so in the physicochemical 104 00:04:37,370 --> 00:04:34,470 stage what you're left with are a bunch 105 00:04:39,770 --> 00:04:37,380 of really reactive fragments and 106 00:04:41,900 --> 00:04:39,780 radicals and they can do chemistry in 107 00:04:44,990 --> 00:04:41,910 the chemical stage so you'll notice this 108 00:04:48,170 --> 00:04:45,000 is the longest it's also been the 109 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:48,180 hardest to simulate but in this case 110 00:04:52,010 --> 00:04:50,490 what happens is at least in solids the 111 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:52,020 species that you've made you can sort of 112 00:04:55,700 --> 00:04:53,970 move around as you saw in Brandon's talk 113 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:55,710 and if they encounter one another and 114 00:05:02,870 --> 00:04:58,050 can react they can do so and form 115 00:05:05,689 --> 00:05:02,880 strange new molecules alright so here's 116 00:05:07,820 --> 00:05:05,699 what it looks like all together now 117 00:05:09,710 --> 00:05:07,830 for reasons which will become hopefully 118 00:05:12,290 --> 00:05:09,720 obvious later on imagine that this blue 119 00:05:14,750 --> 00:05:12,300 block is an o2 ice and you've got a 120 00:05:17,270 --> 00:05:14,760 proton coming in and what happens well 121 00:05:20,500 --> 00:05:17,280 as I mentioned during the physical stage 122 00:05:23,180 --> 00:05:20,510 it can ionize species or excite them and 123 00:05:26,029 --> 00:05:23,190 these electrons produced in the 124 00:05:29,659 --> 00:05:26,039 ionizations are referred to as secondary 125 00:05:31,700 --> 00:05:29,669 electrons confusingly here electron a is 126 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:31,710 called a first generation secondary 127 00:05:37,060 --> 00:05:33,930 electron and if it has enough energy it 128 00:05:40,159 --> 00:05:37,070 can go on and further ini species 129 00:05:42,050 --> 00:05:40,169 creating also confusingly what's known 130 00:05:45,770 --> 00:05:42,060 as a second generation secondary 131 00:05:47,659 --> 00:05:45,780 electron and these can excite species as 132 00:05:49,250 --> 00:05:47,669 well now when they lose enough energy 133 00:05:50,900 --> 00:05:49,260 through collisions these secondary 134 00:05:53,810 --> 00:05:50,910 electrons enter what's called the sub 135 00:05:55,580 --> 00:05:53,820 excitation regime and can do strange and 136 00:05:58,790 --> 00:05:55,590 bizarre things like where you can have a 137 00:06:01,430 --> 00:05:58,800 for evey electron breaking a 5e v bond 138 00:06:06,500 --> 00:06:01,440 thanks to the magic of potential 139 00:06:07,700 --> 00:06:06,510 surfaces all right so that's track 140 00:06:09,260 --> 00:06:07,710 structure now I'm going to tell you a 141 00:06:10,909 --> 00:06:09,270 little bit about a new model I wrote 142 00:06:12,830 --> 00:06:10,919 which can do the physical the 143 00:06:17,270 --> 00:06:12,840 physicochemical and the chemical stages 144 00:06:19,370 --> 00:06:17,280 of irradiation is called serous serous 145 00:06:22,879 --> 00:06:19,380 it's not Chris that would be a little 146 00:06:25,490 --> 00:06:22,889 bit too vain it stands for the chemistry 147 00:06:27,020 --> 00:06:25,500 of ionizing radiation and solids as you 148 00:06:28,700 --> 00:06:27,030 can see I could have called it Chris but 149 00:06:32,900 --> 00:06:28,710 that would have been a little bit too 150 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:32,910 too rich so it's the microscopic Monte 151 00:06:36,469 --> 00:06:34,770 Carlo model which as far as I know is 152 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:36,479 the first one which is able to combine 153 00:06:40,700 --> 00:06:38,610 the atomic physics calculations again 154 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:40,710 and the chemistry they're able to do 155 00:06:43,100 --> 00:06:41,490 that long 156 00:06:46,490 --> 00:06:43,110 cool phase as well where you have things 157 00:06:48,100 --> 00:06:46,500 moving around and so again we use the 158 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:48,110 kinetic Monte Carlo method for that 159 00:06:54,260 --> 00:06:50,610 here's the paper recently came out where 160 00:06:56,210 --> 00:06:54,270 I described it and just as a quick side 161 00:06:59,180 --> 00:06:56,220 note the model was written in Fortran is 162 00:07:02,480 --> 00:06:59,190 a matter of local pride that I have to 163 00:07:04,610 --> 00:07:02,490 mention that in 1956 the Fortran project 164 00:07:08,020 --> 00:07:04,620 at IBM was headed by this fellow John 165 00:07:10,719 --> 00:07:08,030 Backus who was a UVA chemistry undergrad 166 00:07:15,710 --> 00:07:10,729 just a little bit of Fortran trivia 167 00:07:18,140 --> 00:07:15,720 alright back to the science so in trying 168 00:07:22,070 --> 00:07:18,150 to simulate tracks my initial attempts 169 00:07:24,469 --> 00:07:22,080 were not very impressive so what do we 170 00:07:27,140 --> 00:07:24,479 have here well imagine you have an o2 171 00:07:29,839 --> 00:07:27,150 ice and you have a proton entering right 172 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:29,849 here it's moving through and randomly 173 00:07:33,710 --> 00:07:31,530 since this is a Monte Carlo model it's 174 00:07:35,809 --> 00:07:33,720 having collisions and so these points 175 00:07:38,719 --> 00:07:35,819 represent either elastic collisions or 176 00:07:42,469 --> 00:07:38,729 inelastic collisions or which can be 177 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:42,479 ionization of excitations so that's nice 178 00:07:45,770 --> 00:07:44,130 and I was certainly very happy when my 179 00:07:49,219 --> 00:07:45,780 model started to do something I wanted 180 00:07:51,589 --> 00:07:49,229 it to do but it's not very impressive so 181 00:07:54,170 --> 00:07:51,599 you may be slightly more impressed with 182 00:08:06,290 --> 00:07:54,180 what we can do currently if I can get 183 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:17,280 uh-huh okay there you go all right so so 184 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:21,970 here's what we have now circa 2017 what 185 00:08:31,770 --> 00:08:26,290 we have is similar to the first plot I 186 00:08:34,050 --> 00:08:31,780 showed you I'll replay that you have a 187 00:08:36,330 --> 00:08:34,060 particle coming in here a proton moving 188 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:36,340 through your o2 ice except now you can 189 00:08:42,090 --> 00:08:38,530 see all of the secondary electron tracks 190 00:08:44,580 --> 00:08:42,100 so these meander around randomly and do 191 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:44,590 those excitation and ionization 's and 192 00:08:49,260 --> 00:08:47,050 in those funny things they do and they 193 00:08:55,110 --> 00:08:49,270 lose enough energy so we can do a little 194 00:09:01,780 --> 00:08:55,120 bit better today all right back to 195 00:09:08,170 --> 00:09:04,060 theorists are the worst at using 196 00:09:12,700 --> 00:09:08,180 technology sometimes alright so yes so 197 00:09:14,050 --> 00:09:12,710 there it is so now I'll finally tell you 198 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:14,060 why I've been talking about Oh to ice 199 00:09:17,710 --> 00:09:15,890 and that's because chemically for an 200 00:09:21,310 --> 00:09:17,720 irradiation for an irradiated system 201 00:09:23,830 --> 00:09:21,320 it's about as simple as you can get so 202 00:09:26,140 --> 00:09:23,840 we found this experiment it we wanted to 203 00:09:29,500 --> 00:09:26,150 simulate a well constrained experiment 204 00:09:32,590 --> 00:09:29,510 rather than the fairly well 205 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:32,600 unconstrained interstellar medium and so 206 00:09:34,630 --> 00:09:34,250 we found this one which was done here at 207 00:09:36,250 --> 00:09:34,640 UVA 208 00:09:42,460 --> 00:09:36,260 that wasn't a requirement but it was 209 00:09:45,010 --> 00:09:42,470 certainly a perk where OSA our oxygen 210 00:09:47,710 --> 00:09:45,020 ice was irradiated with 100 kV protons 211 00:09:49,990 --> 00:09:47,720 and ozone was synthesized that the ice 212 00:09:52,290 --> 00:09:50,000 was kept at 5 Kelvin under ultra-high 213 00:09:55,210 --> 00:09:52,300 vacuum and was about 10 microns thick 214 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:55,220 keep this number in the back of your 215 00:10:00,670 --> 00:09:58,370 mind all right so here's our $64,000 216 00:10:02,050 --> 00:10:00,680 question once we have the tracks could 217 00:10:03,790 --> 00:10:02,060 we combine it with the chemical model 218 00:10:06,700 --> 00:10:03,800 and actually do chemistry this was the 219 00:10:08,890 --> 00:10:06,710 part which had never been done before so 220 00:10:10,750 --> 00:10:08,900 let's talk about our chemical model a 221 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:10,760 Monte Carlo model is a little bit like 222 00:10:15,700 --> 00:10:12,650 waiting in line to board a plane it's 223 00:10:19,570 --> 00:10:15,710 like the snow rate and a game of 224 00:10:20,950 --> 00:10:19,580 three-dimensional chess all right so how 225 00:10:24,490 --> 00:10:20,960 is it like a game of three-dimensional 226 00:10:26,230 --> 00:10:24,500 chess well this is just a more detailed 227 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:26,240 version of what you saw earlier in 228 00:10:31,510 --> 00:10:28,970 Brandon's talk you can have imagine this 229 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:31,520 is looking down from an aliens eye view 230 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:33,530 on the surface of an ice you can have 231 00:10:38,350 --> 00:10:35,810 things coming in from the gas phase onto 232 00:10:40,150 --> 00:10:38,360 the grain dis orbing or hopping around 233 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:40,160 and again if they encounter a co 234 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:43,610 reactant they can react and then imagine 235 00:10:48,570 --> 00:10:45,290 this being sort of a dull house top to 236 00:10:51,700 --> 00:10:48,580 bottom slice and the yellow the blue 237 00:10:53,380 --> 00:10:51,710 squares represent lattice sites we would 238 00:10:55,810 --> 00:10:53,390 call them normal sites and the yellow 239 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:55,820 squares are interstitial sites and these 240 00:10:59,470 --> 00:10:57,650 enable diffusion through out the solid 241 00:11:01,150 --> 00:10:59,480 so as you see here things can move 242 00:11:04,180 --> 00:11:01,160 around and react when they encounter a 243 00:11:05,980 --> 00:11:04,190 co reactant that's just a simple picture 244 00:11:07,860 --> 00:11:05,990 of how it's like a three-dimensional 245 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:07,870 chess game so putting it all together 246 00:11:12,730 --> 00:11:10,370 here's the basic algorithm of the cirrus 247 00:11:14,380 --> 00:11:12,740 model so when you start your program the 248 00:11:15,190 --> 00:11:14,390 first thing which happens is it gets 249 00:11:17,830 --> 00:11:15,200 smacked with the pro 250 00:11:19,830 --> 00:11:17,840 on and so you calculate the track then 251 00:11:22,510 --> 00:11:19,840 you evaluate your ending condition and 252 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:22,520 if the model isn't over yet you go back 253 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:24,170 and figure out what the next thing is 254 00:11:27,850 --> 00:11:25,970 since it's a Monte Carlo model 255 00:11:29,590 --> 00:11:27,860 everything has to wait for everything 256 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:29,600 else only one thing can happen at a time 257 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:31,610 and you just keep going through this 258 00:11:36,790 --> 00:11:34,250 loop until you reach your exit condition 259 00:11:38,140 --> 00:11:36,800 but now when a neutral species hops this 260 00:11:40,030 --> 00:11:38,150 is where the chemistry happens because 261 00:11:42,190 --> 00:11:40,040 as I mentioned if it encounters 262 00:11:45,100 --> 00:11:42,200 something it can react with you form a 263 00:11:47,140 --> 00:11:45,110 new product so we have the chemistry 264 00:11:49,390 --> 00:11:47,150 over here we have the track calculations 265 00:11:54,010 --> 00:11:49,400 over here it combines all together into 266 00:11:54,340 --> 00:11:54,020 a model which can do some cool stuff all 267 00:11:58,150 --> 00:11:54,350 right 268 00:12:01,870 --> 00:11:58,160 so chemistry as I mentioned the o2 269 00:12:04,330 --> 00:12:01,880 system you can think of it as having a 270 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:04,340 fairly simple chemistry you have your o2 271 00:12:09,970 --> 00:12:06,530 getting broken apart by X here meaning 272 00:12:12,370 --> 00:12:09,980 radiation and two two oxygen atoms those 273 00:12:15,310 --> 00:12:12,380 oxygen atoms can combine with molecular 274 00:12:17,740 --> 00:12:15,320 oxygen to form ozone stable stabilized 275 00:12:20,830 --> 00:12:17,750 by a third body the ozone can get broken 276 00:12:24,610 --> 00:12:20,840 apart and can also react with oxygen so 277 00:12:26,230 --> 00:12:24,620 it looks like a fairly simple system but 278 00:12:28,180 --> 00:12:26,240 now this is from the point of view of a 279 00:12:29,830 --> 00:12:28,190 typical rate equations type chemical 280 00:12:31,780 --> 00:12:29,840 model what does it look like from the 281 00:12:33,060 --> 00:12:31,790 point of view of a detailed Monte Carlo 282 00:12:36,670 --> 00:12:33,070 based model where you're dealing with 283 00:12:38,710 --> 00:12:36,680 excited species and ionized species so 284 00:12:40,510 --> 00:12:38,720 here is the reactions table from our 285 00:12:42,730 --> 00:12:40,520 paper we have more than an order of 286 00:12:44,700 --> 00:12:42,740 magnitude more reactions than that 287 00:12:48,580 --> 00:12:44,710 simple system that I showed you before 288 00:12:50,500 --> 00:12:48,590 we have as I mentioned we have ions we 289 00:12:52,690 --> 00:12:50,510 have excited species and these become 290 00:12:54,940 --> 00:12:52,700 very useful in actually doing the 291 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:54,950 chemistry because you have to make a lot 292 00:13:01,450 --> 00:12:57,970 of approximations in this sort of regime 293 00:13:04,630 --> 00:13:01,460 so I beating around the bush but here 294 00:13:07,150 --> 00:13:04,640 are our final results here is ozone 295 00:13:09,250 --> 00:13:07,160 concentration here's fluids fluence just 296 00:13:11,980 --> 00:13:09,260 means how many particles you smacked 297 00:13:15,250 --> 00:13:11,990 into your solid and you can see in our 298 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:15,260 blue are the experimental data in yellow 299 00:13:19,570 --> 00:13:17,810 we have our standard model results and 300 00:13:22,690 --> 00:13:19,580 you can see we get the steady state 301 00:13:24,190 --> 00:13:22,700 chemists Bundys of ozone early well so 302 00:13:25,690 --> 00:13:24,200 we were happy about this but we noticed 303 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:25,700 we were at higher fluencies than the 304 00:13:28,879 --> 00:13:28,490 experiment so we thought about it a 305 00:13:30,609 --> 00:13:28,889 little bit 306 00:13:33,319 --> 00:13:30,619 and realized oh it's probably because 307 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:33,329 what we're doing this is a thinner ice 308 00:13:37,460 --> 00:13:35,850 than the experiment actually used so 309 00:13:39,650 --> 00:13:37,470 you're depositing less energy per 310 00:13:42,739 --> 00:13:39,660 particle into it and making less ozone 311 00:13:44,689 --> 00:13:42,749 per particle so this was a point one 312 00:13:47,389 --> 00:13:44,699 micron ice we simulated the effects of 313 00:13:49,759 --> 00:13:47,399 having a 1 and 10 micron ice and the 10 314 00:13:53,119 --> 00:13:49,769 micron ice reproduced the experimental 315 00:13:54,979 --> 00:13:53,129 data very nicely and as you remember 316 00:13:57,229 --> 00:13:54,989 from the earlier slide the experimental 317 00:13:58,879 --> 00:13:57,239 ice was about 10 microns so not only do 318 00:14:01,189 --> 00:13:58,889 we predict the steady-state abundance 319 00:14:03,319 --> 00:14:01,199 but we also are able to roughly predict 320 00:14:07,159 --> 00:14:03,329 the thickness of the ice so we are very 321 00:14:10,369 --> 00:14:07,169 happy about that all right so with that 322 00:14:12,729 --> 00:14:10,379 I'd like to thank my advisor former 323 00:14:16,519 --> 00:14:12,739 fellow group members collaborators and 324 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:16,529 I'll leave you with this last slide from 325 00:14:42,579 --> 00:14:39,699 this may be a very nice question but so 326 00:14:44,650 --> 00:14:42,589 in your we had your proton that hits 327 00:14:48,129 --> 00:14:44,660 your eyes we have all these tracks they 328 00:14:50,439 --> 00:14:48,139 seem to have the same width I was 329 00:14:53,410 --> 00:14:50,449 wondering if you have more energy when 330 00:14:56,439 --> 00:14:53,420 you come in you have more secondary 331 00:14:59,110 --> 00:14:56,449 electrons and we will be larger at the 332 00:14:59,740 --> 00:14:59,120 beginning and yell again yeah that's a 333 00:15:10,269 --> 00:14:59,750 good question 334 00:15:12,069 --> 00:15:10,279 so the will go back so there's a funny 335 00:15:14,790 --> 00:15:12,079 relationship where the higher the energy 336 00:15:17,139 --> 00:15:14,800 of the primary particle coming in the 337 00:15:18,610 --> 00:15:17,149 smaller the cross-section so the fewer 338 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:18,620 secondary electrons they're going to 339 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:21,410 make now the sort of width of this is 340 00:15:27,579 --> 00:15:24,370 actually determined by the average 341 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:27,589 secondary electron energy now you can 342 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:30,050 get very energetic electrons coming off 343 00:15:35,559 --> 00:15:31,970 this as well those are called delta rays 344 00:15:36,939 --> 00:15:35,569 and so since this is random you see some 345 00:15:39,100 --> 00:15:36,949 of them don't go very far some of them 346 00:15:41,110 --> 00:15:39,110 have more energy so since this is a 347 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:41,120 stochastic model you get the luck of the 348 00:15:47,019 --> 00:15:43,130 draw but this is as it is in nature as 349 00:15:48,699 --> 00:15:47,029 well it's based on the average electron 350 00:15:54,610 --> 00:15:48,709 energy which is sort of a skewed 351 00:15:56,230 --> 00:15:54,620 Gaussian type distribution all right 352 00:15:59,019 --> 00:15:56,240 Chris I got a question for you cool so 353 00:16:01,930 --> 00:15:59,029 can you do this with a water ice yes 354 00:16:03,370 --> 00:16:01,940 there's a so we just that's one of the 355 00:16:05,829 --> 00:16:03,380 next things that we're looking to do is 356 00:16:07,569 --> 00:16:05,839 water ice because clearly water ice is 357 00:16:10,059 --> 00:16:07,579 the most astrophysically relevant ice 358 00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:10,069 and so the reason why we didn't want to 359 00:16:14,410 --> 00:16:12,399 do this water ice first is because 360 00:16:20,199 --> 00:16:14,420 hydrogen's make everything complicated 361 00:16:22,179 --> 00:16:20,209 and Oh two is relatively simple as you 362 00:16:25,030 --> 00:16:22,189 saw at least in the rate equations type 363 00:16:26,740 --> 00:16:25,040 approach so that's the next step 364 00:16:29,110 --> 00:16:26,750 my follow-up is what happens when you 365 00:16:31,420 --> 00:16:29,120 add desk to when you add us to so you 366 00:16:33,220 --> 00:16:31,430 mean a physical surface underneath the 367 00:16:36,009 --> 00:16:33,230 ice with more stopping power with more 368 00:16:39,370 --> 00:16:36,019 stopping power so what happens is there 369 00:16:41,170 --> 00:16:39,380 are some cases where because the dust 370 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:41,180 grains are just on average point 1 371 00:16:45,699 --> 00:16:43,850 microns in diameter you're not going to 372 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:45,709 lose a lot of energy if you have say 100 373 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:47,330 kV proton you can try 374 00:16:51,639 --> 00:16:49,010 through the dusk rain come out the other 375 00:16:53,970 --> 00:16:51,649 side and sort of them bar the other side 376 00:16:56,980 --> 00:16:53,980 of the ice so there will be cases where 377 00:16:59,230 --> 00:16:56,990 the cosmic ray will bite the dust and in 378 00:17:01,120 --> 00:16:59,240 those cases you can actually completely 379 00:17:03,009 --> 00:17:01,130 obliterate your grain and just blast 380 00:17:05,980 --> 00:17:03,019 everything off into the gas phase which 381 00:17:07,419 --> 00:17:05,990 is an interesting thing which I am going 382 00:17:09,610 --> 00:17:07,429 to be looking at in the future at some 383 00:17:11,230 --> 00:17:09,620 point but yeah generally speaking the 384 00:17:16,559 --> 00:17:11,240 cosmic rays will just zip right through 385 00:17:18,730 --> 00:17:16,569 the dust grain they also have questions 386 00:17:19,620 --> 00:17:18,740 all right that case let's thank Chris